That was one of my attempts. I can't remember the exact err.description, but it blows. I even tried making it visible and just setting its Z-order to place it exactly behind my main MapPointControl, but to no avail. I don't know if it's related, but I have noticed when I run my VB app with a mp control and run MapPoint, the real .exe simulatneously, that they can occassionally draw on each other's map ??

Another down fall of trying the second control is another instance of Mappoint.exe, the ActiveX control gets kicked off, consuming even more memory.

Thanks for the try,

LES