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Restricted Truck Routes

This is a discussion on Restricted Truck Routes within the Bing Maps and MapPoint Web Service forums, part of the Map Forums category; I recently got a request for routing trucks over restricted truck routes in the state of NY. I initially told ...

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    Restricted Truck Routes

    I recently got a request for routing trucks over restricted truck routes in the state of NY. I initially told the potential client that I didn't think MS MapPoint Web Services supported this but I read that Naviteq offers this:
    http://locationintelligence.net/news/12808.html

    Does MP Web Services allow access to this data?

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    I have only done this with MP '04 and it required a lot of custom digitizing.. I'm not sure MWS would support it out of the box. How many states are you looking at covering?

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    Truck Routes

    Eric,
    Thanks for your reply. This truck data is newly obtained by Naviteq (Oct 2005). Check out the link below. It describes the designated streets, etc. defined by 12 states to manage large truck traffic:

    http://locationintelligence.net/news/12808.html

    It would be great if MS WebServices provided a new SegmentPreference called something like "TruckRoute" which could be used, for example, in place of "Quickest" in the method below:

    rt = RouteService.CalculateSimpleRoute(arrLatLong, MapPointUtils.DEFAULT_DATA_SOURCE, SegmentPreference.Quickest );

    After posting this on several sites, my question is evolving to: "How do I directly access the Naviteq data?"

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    Although MWS uses Navteq data, I'm sure this part would not be loaded or exposed through MWS.
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    Truck rout Limits

    Eric is correct the MWS does not have truck rout limitations, and I have not seen it as a high priority feature request. I have never done it, but it is feasible that you could get the routing from NavTech, and use those as Routing points (you can have up to 50 in a single rout call), and send those into the MWS affectively routing around the non truck friendly segments.

    I'll check with the product team and see if this is on the roadmap, we did just implement real time traffic, so that may be helpful to you since avoiding traffic is also a major concern for drivers.

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    Restricted Truck Routes In Canada

    Does anyone have an idea where the restricted truck route data can be found for Canada.

    I am using mappoint for routing dangerous goods vehicles in Canada, and have been looking for sometime for data files.

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    Mark: This is a request I see on a fairly regular basis for desktop MapPoint - both here and on the newsgroups.

    Things like low bridges, axle loadings, and possibly hazardous chemicals.
    Most can be implemented with avoid polygons, but I think MapPoint users often have implementation problems and they also need to know where the bridges/etc are in the first place before they can draw the polygons.


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    Re: Restricted Truck Routes

    Hi All,

    I have some questions around Hazmat restrictions.I recently called the Mappoint product team and learned that MapPoint doesn't provide Hazmat restrictions for large truck routing. I further investigated and learned, Navteq provide Hamzat map data which can be purchased seperately and comes with TAB file format. So my question is Can we import this file into Mappoint 2009 ( I guess desktop version ) and get the Hazmat restrictions? Please advice. If not possible , what all are my availalble options??

    Many thanks.

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    Re: Restricted Truck Routes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwaed View Post
    Mark: This is a request I see on a fairly regular basis for desktop MapPoint - both here and on the newsgroups.

    I second that. I have heard very many Streets & Trips users asking for this feature.

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    Re: Restricted Truck Routes

    Quote Originally Posted by tomylinson View Post
    Hi All,

    I have some questions around Hazmat restrictions.I recently called the Mappoint product team and learned that MapPoint doesn't provide Hazmat restrictions for large truck routing. I further investigated and learned, Navteq provide Hamzat map data which can be purchased seperately and comes with TAB file format. So my question is Can we import this file into Mappoint 2009 ( I guess desktop version ) and get the Hazmat restrictions? Please advice. If not possible , what all are my availalble options??

    Many thanks.
    To implement routing restrictions in MapPoint, you can use the Avoidance Polygons feature... however it requires a lot of detailed and tedious drawing in of all these polygons... depending on the area covered and the number of restrictions, it could take many hours or days.

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