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anbudon
11-11-2009, 11:29 AM
Hello there,

I am relatively new user of Map point, i am trying to figure out how i can view the map based on Counties and Regions of UK. I seem to have only few options as Road View, Potical Map and three more options..

Any help will be greatly appricated.

Regards
ANbu

Mattys Consulting
11-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Hi anbudon,

Use a shaded area map:
Data>Data Mapping Wizard>Shaded Area Map>Add Demographics>
Area in Square Miles (Top), No Division (middle), Show Data By ?

Mike Mattys
Mattys Consulting Maps & Custom Programming (http://www.mattysconsulting.com)

davidb
11-12-2009, 04:32 AM
Unfortunately that doesnít work in the UK!! If you follow Mikeís instructions then the only geography you can choose for the shaded map is postcode (areas, districts or sectors). Thatís because MP doesnít hold any data (like area) for UK administrative geography, which in the major part is not nested with postcode geography.

If you want to see the admin geography then choose Data Map and zoom in to say 300km and you will see the local authority boundaries. Note that the UK admin geography built into MapPoint is Counties and Unitary Authorities, basically whatís shown on this map plus London boroughs.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/geography/downloads/uk_cty_ua.pdf

This means that district authority boundaries are not included which may be a problem. In England, taking Kent as an example MP includes the boundary for the county authority and also the unitary authority of Medway; however there are no boundaries for district authorities like Maidstone, Ashford, Dover etc. Wales comprises boundaries for 22 unitary authorities and Scotland 32 council areas. Northern Ireland is divided into 26 districts, which are unitary authorities.

If you want to see the admin geography more clearly then input a dummy data value for each of the authorities and then use the map shading. (If you want a list of all the UK authorities in MapPoint friendly form then let me know via e-mail and Iíll dig something out).

If this is the admin geography you wish to use then youíre in luck Ė all MP mapping capabilities, like shading, work on these boundaries. If the admin geography you want to use doesnít align (eg you need district authorities) then realistically in my opinion youíre better off looking at different software. Would it be a viable alternative to use postcode geography for your work, because MP is strong here?

Boundaries for the 9 English Govt Office Regions (if thatís what youíre referring to as Regions) arenít built into MP. However as theyíre hierarchical with local authorities you can define them geographically as territories.

Mattys Consulting
11-12-2009, 07:50 AM
I should've looked before I leaped.
Good info, thanks for following up, David.

To further the conversation, what is your assessment
of using Territories for UK where it lists:

County
Postcode Sector
Postcode District
Postcode Area
UK Constituent Country
Country/Region


Mike Mattys
Mattys Consulting Maps & Custom Programming (http://www.mattysconsulting.com)

davidb
11-12-2009, 11:53 AM
Hi Mike

Yes once you have a clean list of all the admin zone names then you can use them as a basis for territories and apply all the mapping techniques. If there isn't the demographic data built into the system however, I've found getting the full list of names is problematic. Am I missing something obvious? I use the method you describe when the data is present but can't see any easy way when it isn't.

Rgds

Mattys Consulting
11-12-2009, 12:07 PM
Hi David,

No, I consider you to be one of our resident experts on MapPoint EU,
so I thought I'd ask.

Mike Mattys
Mattys Consulting Maps & Custom Programming (http://www.mattysconsulting.com)

squashjunkie
06-11-2010, 06:18 AM
Hi,

I am also looking to plot data against the UK County / Unitary authorities but would like to have a list of those which are used in Mappoint.. Is it possible to extract one from Mappoint itself, or does someone have one ready at hand?

Thx a lot

(Mappoint 2009)

davidb
06-11-2010, 08:26 AM
I think the LA boundaries incorporated into MapPoint include shire counties, London boroughs, metropolitan counties and unitary authorities. It does not include the local authorities within a shire county eg in the case of Wiltshire, boundaries for Kennet, North Wiltshire, Salisbury and West Wiltshire arenít included while Swindon (unitary authority) is.

You'll need to check this but I think this ONS map is more or less what's included in MP.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/geography/downloads/uk_cty_ua.pdf

Rgds

squashjunkie
06-11-2010, 08:38 AM
thats what I have tried using, but I'm still coming up with gaps.
For instance, the "West Midlands" does not match in MapPoint... :helpsmilie:

Isn't there a way of exporting those county definitions from within MapPoint and using that list to build a custom territory list.

It seems that the UK is a little bit tricky when trying to match up this kind of definition.

davidb
06-11-2010, 09:41 AM
Yes, you're right. The metropolitan authorities like the West Midlands are divided into their local authorioties ie. Wolverhampton, Dudley etc. My mistake. OK, second approach, create a giant territory using County as the building block. Then export that to excel and that'll give you a full list of LAs used in MapPoint.

rgds

squashjunkie
06-11-2010, 10:29 AM
Ok - that'll work...thx for the tip

Its a shame that you cant export these without having to create a custom territory set.

thx again.